DISCOURSE 2
THE “SONSHIP” OF GOD
THE “MONUMENTAL ERROR” of
ISLAM, CHRISTIANITY, and JUDAISM
THE SON OF GOD: SONS OF GOD.
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For
those who don’t believe, no proof is possible.”
Stuart Chase.
Battleground: The “Sonship” of God
ISLAM
For this formative Discourse we have used a term prevalent in the Koran where it refers primarily to Jesus Christ; that of “Sonship”, and that relationship to God as seen through the lens of the Muslim religion. No equivocation on the part of Islam; the “Sonship” of God as espoused by the Christian religion is an absolute “non-event” for Muslims, for Jesus was ostensibly just a prophet –- just the “son of Mary”.
However, and very fortuitous for Islam, Jesus just happened to be around at exactly the right time in history to ostensibly point to Muhammad as the Spirit of Truth --- according to Islam’s “official” narrative. When we use the term, “Monumental Error” in the Discourse Heading, what we mean is that all of the “big three”, each in their own way, have not at all understood the real import of “SONSHIP OF GOD”.
To emphasise that point and hopefully give it the commensurate “gravitas” that is Its accompanying Power, we have Capitalised the Concept in this opening section. Even the Christian religion, which prides itself on having The Son of God as the cornerstone of their Church and religion, stands indicted under the inviolable umbrella of The Divine Laws of Creation in their non- understanding of the true “Mission” of Jesus; thus why He had to come to earth in the historical timeframe that was His life and times.
For you, reader, as a seeking individual -- for under those very inviolable Laws your every decision will bring to you the commensurate consequences -- this Discourse can open a path for you that will anchor a foundation whereby at appropriate stages in the Work we will give you the detail of all that we allude to or state in these early stages. For now, let’s try and sort out the religious mess centred on “Sonship of God”.
Islam’s implacable opposition to any notion of just the “possible” existence of a “Son of God” would seem to almost verge on the hysterical. For it must not be raised as an idea, it must not be stated, and the very belief must be attacked at all costs. In short, it must be destroyed, expunged, eradicated, from all human thought and writing. What drives such a venomous approach to this “reality”? Well: Let’s reacquaint ourselves with a clear Truth that answers that question.
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“Wherever you find intolerance and malice, or even enmity and stirring up strife against others who are not of the same faith, wherever men seek to harm those of a different belief, either the teaching is not from God or it has been falsified. And such people serve only the Darkness, never the Light!
The teaching that permits this must be distorted, whatever it is called; for a teaching that has not yet been distorted will also swing in purity in the Laws of God. It does not produce human beings who wish to harm their fellow-men!”
THE “SPIRIT OF TRUTH”!
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In the final analysis, only one reason could produce such vehement opposition, otherwise Muslims could simply allow all other religions to simply “live and let live” in the same way that other faiths can and do --- but Islam clearly cannot. Ultimately, then, and obviously seeded by Islamic doctrine; the reason probably stems from a very deep-seated and collective --- perhaps even non-conscious --- psychological FEAR that if Jesus truly was The “Son of God”; if it really were the case, then Muhammad could not possibly be the Spirit of Truth. That is the great Muslim FEAR!
[Reader, once again note that the notion, if, is only for the purposes of this immediate discussion, for the reality of the trial of Jesus and its recorded, immediate aftermath stands as clear “earthly” testimony to His Divine Status.]
The Islamic doctrine that proclaims Muhammad to be the Spirit of Truth is predicated on the absolute declaration that such is the case because “God had no offspring”; that The Creator of all things stands completely alone; that “God had no consort” by which to “produce” offspring in the form of a “son”. Therefore, as we must continue to reiterate, the notion of Jesus as The Son of God is anathema to Muslims.
Let’s now quote a number of texts from the Koran and let M.M. Ali speak on them before we seriously comment on this “locked-in-stone” belief. Because the notion of “sonship” is crucial to the debate of a “Spirit of Truth” and the spread of associated texts and commentary in the Koran is not vast, some texts are repeated here -– and perhaps will be again in later Discourses. From 2:116, M.M. Ali:
‘And they say: Allah has taken to Himself a son --- glory be to him! Rather,
whatever is in the heavens and the earth is His. All are obedient to Him .’a
Ali’s commentary on verse 2:116a:
‘The Christian doctrine that God has a son is refuted here. Though mainly it is the Jews who are addressed in this chapter. Christianity also is spoken of occasionally, in contrast with the next chapter in which Christianity finds a detailed mention while there are occasional references to Judaism. The phrase subhana-hu is always used to declare the freedom of the Divine Being (*) from all imperfections, and is always mentioned in connection with the doctrine of sonship to show that to attribute a son to the Divine Being (*) is to attribute an imperfection to Him, which is met with in human beings. The doctrine of sonship is mentioned here as being opposed to the religion which requires entire submission to Divine commandments from every man and thus dispenses with the necessity of a conciliator.’
(*) On the surface, the notion that God is a “Divine Being” is perfectly understandable in terms of attempting to place The Creator at a distance from the human-earthly that would be commensurate with the necessary separative- reality that is inherent with a Creator and the far lower creatures that have developed as a result of His Creation. So the word, “Divine”, has been the “constant” by which human beings have sought to adorn GOD with a Title that bears, in the earthly sense, the greatest degree of Majesty and Power, and reverence and worship, that human language can aspire to.
However: Whilst the word, “Divine”, has been sufficient for that specific purpose up to this point in the human spiritual journey --- for what other word did we have to describe HIM --- with the entry of The Spirit of Truth and The Living Word of God now on earth through Him, that commensurate elevation of the Highest knowledge here in The World of Matter brings forth a new and far Higher concept and reality for The Creator than the word, “Divine”. From verse 6:101:
‘Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth! How could He have a son when He has no consort? (**) And He created everything, and He is the Knower of all things.’a
Ali’s commentary on Verse 6:101a.
‘This verse and those that follow describe the transcendental Unity of the Divine Being. To attribute a son to Him (**) is to acknowledge that He had a consort, otherwise the word son will have to be taken simply as a metaphor; see 2:116a.’
(**) Let’s briefly comment on the word, “consort”, for the begetting of a “son”. Here on earth, a “consort” is obviously necessary for any male impregnation of that “female consort” for offspring to be produced. But that is “down here” on earth. To even deign to infer that THE CREATOR OF ALL THE WORLDS --- Enthroned at the absolute Highest Level, even Above the Creations --- somehow needs a “consort” to “produce” a “son” there, clearly reveals a level of “non-understanding” that is really inexcusable and just plain crass. If even the best Islamic scholars do not even begin to understand that there must very obviously be an immeasurably-vast distance and thus difference between us in the World of Matter, and HE in HIS humanly-unapproachable Realm.
Why would that be so difficult to understand, whereby Islam attributes “earthly characteristics” to the Highest of all, including and especially what the Koran infers as the only way that “The Almighty” could possibly beget a “son” would be in an earthly way? It is, in a word, insane! Islam and the whole of the Muslim world: Understand this:
The word, Son, as applied to the “Sonship of GOD”, means a PART of GOD!
In concert with that, surely, very logical, “reality”, here is exactly the appropriate place to hear the commensurate Words of The Spirit of Truth about The Place or Realm of GOD; i.e., that “new and far Higher concept and reality for The Creator than the word, “Divine”, to which I recently alluded.
Actually, it is quite ludicrous that human beings should mull over and pontificate about levels of Creation so far away from our ability to even begin to comprehend such Heights. Yet we do. So: Hopefully to consign such foolish and inane ideas to the mountain of rubbish of appalling human distortions, let’s learn from The All-Truth exactly the vast difference between the humanly- unattainable and unapproachable Divine Realm and the actual:
PLACE OF GOD!
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UNSUBSTANTIATE
Thus heed this well, God is not Divine, but God is God, because He is Unsubstantiate, and the Unsubstantiate is not Divine, but God!
THE “SPIRIT OF TRUTH”!
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Reader: That comes from The Hand of The Spirit of Truth Himself! Despite this “new” and “previously-unknown knowledge” you can now know and access, it will nonetheless simply “go over the heads” of the greater bulk of global humanity. Do not let it go over yours. Since we know that few will heed, let’s just continue on with the religious “stuff” from M.M. Ali.
‘And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah. These are the words of their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before. b Allah’s curse be on them! How they are turned away.’ (9:30.)
Ali’s commentary on Verse 9:30b.
‘We are told that the Christian doctrine that Jesus Christ was the Son of God was borrowed from earlier pagan people. Recent research has established the fact beyond all doubt. In fact, when St. Paul saw that the Jews would on no account accept Jesus Christ as a messenger of God, he introduced the pagan doctrine of sonship of God into the Christian religion, so that it might become more acceptable to the pagans.’
Let’s pause here and comment on Ali’s take on verse 9:30b. The phrases, “we are told”, and “recent research has established the fact beyond all doubt” attempts to establish Ali’s claims ‘beyond all doubt’, but without any commensurate “proof”; for he does not say here how it is thus established. Because the issue cannot be decided in a Court of Law and only history holds the final picture, how can this impasse ever be resolved? It certainly cannot by religious debate, and ultimately cannot by force of arms to compel submission and/or acceptance of a given position. Simply because Truth cannot be sanitised, what has been and what is, is so forever. Religious pride, ego and blasphemous error can never change that hard Fact.
There is one way, one avenue, open to human beings whereby this and every other contentious issue can be resolved beyond all doubt, speculation, and uncertainty, and that is through the knowledge contained in the “Akashic Record” -- written on the “Pages of Time”!
There, under the wise Ordinances of The Creative Will, all is recorded as it occurred, along with the words that were said in the moment, for nothing is lost in Creation. From that source in a later Discourse we will learn, among many other amazing historical and religious Truths, the real Truth about Jesus and His “Sonship”.
Access to that knowledge is given to global humanity as a part of The All- Truth from The Spirit of Truth, and with which religions -- if they so wish and if they can swallow their stubborn pride and ego and let go their appalling distortions of Pure Truth -- can become free, and so begin to set in place through transformation what was always ordained for global humanity: A One Truth guiding one true “direction” for all peoples.
Let’s state that again: In our long and blood-soaked religious journey, what was always ordained for global humanity by this time was for there to be just “One Final Truth” guiding the same ‘Teaching’ for every human being on earth. That was what we on earth should have brought about, but we didn’t. Now we debate over non-understanding, non-recognition and lies and deceit of useless opinions, simply to maintain religious status quos’, to where maiming and killing to the point of beheading is deemed “right” by the worst of them. And all to the supposed glory of a strange beast termed “religious truth”, when it is all just distorted, religious lies.
Reader: Know that this is not a pleasant book to have to write, yet we must. Once more I enjoin you to delve deeply into this “stuff” that one has to work with and become spiritually free of it all. That is my hope for you! In the meantime, let’s look at a few more Koranic verses about “Sonship” from Chapter 18:1 and 18:4-5.
‘Praise be to Allah! Who revealed the Book to His servant, and allowed
therein no crookedness.a’ (1)
‘And to warn those who say: Allah has taken to Himself a son.’ (4)
‘They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers. Grievous is the word
that comes out of their mouths. They speak nothing but a lie.’ (5)
Here we have another view of ‘Sonship” from M.M. Ali where in verse 1, the part-sentence --- “and allowed therein no crookedness” --- basically represents a kind of standard yet nonetheless “concrete mantra” which states that the content of all the three monotheistic “Books of Religion” are ostensibly all given by God to men on earth, who then write them down in “verbatim- perfection”. By that definition, they are thus ALL miraculous, sacred and holy --- without one single flaw.
Of course, that is patently wrong; in fact, it is all just religious hype! For if we employ simple, good old plain, everyday logic, and if we said the same thing ten million times, it would --- historically --- always reveal the same thing; that that notion of perfection in all three “Books” is absurd. Why? The answer is really quite simple! For obviously: If they really were all given by God verbatim and recorded perfectly --- as each religion is wont to claim --- would they not then all read the same?
Surely that is the obvious conclusion to draw, and that would mean that there would not, could not, be any dissension between the “big three”. Yet that has never been so; in the end, just vast amounts of bloodshed. And even if the historical aspect of the “three Books” were different for the individual peoples in their particular cultures, as they obviously would be, The Laws of Creation: The Laws of God --- in their absolutely correct interpretation --- would have to be the same in all “three”, but they are not.
And thus were humankind given the great prophecies of warning about the Coming One Who in the “last days” would bring that Final and Perfect Truth direct from God; brought by His Envoy personally so that it would be untouched, and therefore unsullied, by human hands and devious religious minds.
However: Instead of being awake in heed of the prophecies, the latter-day leaders and scholars of Islam, Judaism and Christianity -- the very religions tasked to lead their peoples to the recognition of that stupendous Event of Revelation in the 20th century -- instead have done exactly the opposite. They have fostered suspicion, fomented violence and committed inexcusable acts of terror, all in the name of just their religions -- as if such actions would be “pleasing” to The Creator; the “producer” of all that is good and Perfect.
Let’s allow M.M. Ali to continue his support for the Muslim view of no “Son of God”, and also note his most interesting interpretation of the concept of “Antichrist”.
‘Now in the first and the last sections of this chapter [18] the Christian doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is condemned. ...and this doctrine, the doctrine of sonship and of the divinity of a servant of God, is the basic doctrine of the Christian religion. Moreover, in the concluding ten verses, a true description of the occupation of Christian nations is given in the words whose effort goes astray in this world’s life (v. 104). The holy Qur’an does not speak of the appearance of Dajjal, or Antichrist, anywhere but the Prophet’s saying quoted above plainly shows that the Dajjal of the Hadith is the same as the upholders of the erroneous Christian doctrine of the sonship and divinity of Jesus Christ. Christianity, in its present form, being opposed to the true teachings of Christ, is thus the only Antichrist known to the Qur’an. It may be added that Dajjal signifies one who conceals the truth with falsehood, or a liar or a great deceiver.’ (*)
(*) We have previously commented on the dangers of religions “concealing the truth with falsehood”. The paradox there, of course, is that if a given religion does not have The All-Truth in its absolute form, it has no benchmark by which it can determine whether its own particular doctrine is in concert with that Truth. So, to condemn other religions from a position of “not knowing” is a pointless and hypocritical exercise. On the other hand, in M.M. Ali’s analysis of verses 1, 4 and 5, his reference to the Antichrist as being the Christian Church because it opposes the true teachings of Christ, resonates with real Truth.
For in the final analysis, the very word -- Antichrist -- is unequivocally clear. It means that anyone, any culture, any nation, any religion that opposes any single part of what Christ brought to earth and taught, simply has to be anti-Christ.
That ‘grammatical’ reality must therefore also include Islam in its condemnation of Jesus not being The “Son of God”. Interestingly, a whole industry is now centred on [the] Antichrist in religion, books, Hollywood films and documentaries. However, the simple and logical meaning of Antichrist has gotten lost in the hype, religiosity and even collective fear of this supposedly “dark entity”. As we reinforce, it simply means “opposed to Christ”, so the Koran is certainly correct in its understanding of the word/Title. In any case, only one “force” -– of human making of course -– represents and is the real Antichrist. [We may perhaps reveal that in a later part of this Work.]
Chapter 19, Verse 92 of the Koran: False Doctrine of Sonship
‘And they say: The Beneficent has taken to Himself a son.’ (19:88).
‘Certainly you make an abominable assertion.’ (19:89).
‘And it is not worthy of the Beneficent that He should take to Himself a
son.a’
M.M. Ali’s commentary on 19:92a and the Koran’s “False Doctrine of Sonship”.
‘The five verses 89-93 contain a most emphatic and clear condemnation of the Christian doctrine of the Godhead of Jesus Christ. It may be noted that this chapter belongs to about the fifth year of the Holy Prophet’s mission... Thus Islam had set before itself from the very first the grand object of the reformation of Christianity. The particular point on which stress is laid in this chapter ... [is] ... against the fundamental errors of the Christian religion, Sonship [...] and Atonement...’
‘And they say: The Beneficent has taken to Himself a son. Glory be to Him! Nay, they are honoured servantsa ---‘ (21:26).
Ali on 26a.
26a ‘Refuting the doctrine that Jesus Christ is the son of God, it is added that they are honoured servants. The words draw attention to the fact that others besides Jesus were spoken of as the sons of God, but that title signified nothing more than that they were honoured servants, and that therefore Jesus was the son of God exactly in the same sense.’
‘Had we wished to take a pastime, We would have taken it from before Ourselves; by no means would we do (so).a (21:17.)
In terms of English language usage, the above verse would seem to have no connection with, or bearing on, Jesus and “Sonship”. Perhaps without the knowledge of Arabic, the Koran would always be a difficult book to make sense of anyway. Despite that consideration, nothing ever seems to be stated in plain and simple language, where even individual dialects are “roped in” to make the anti-“Sonship” case for Islam “stick”. So, it is opened up to all sorts of interpretations, as we read in M.M. Ali’s commentary on verse 17a:
‘The in is here nafiyah, i.e., negativing the statement already made (“by no means”). Pastime, lahw, in this verse carries the same significance as sporting in the previous verse. The commentators say that lahw, in the dialect of Yaman, signifies wife or child, and thus the statement made in the verse is a refutation of the Christian doctrine that Jesus Christ is the son of God (LJ).
17a ‘Allah has not taken to Himself a son, nor is there with Him any (other) god --- in that case would each god have taken away what he created, and some of them would have overpowered others. Glory be to Allah above what they describe.--- (23:91).
It is extremely difficult to even begin to understand where any logic might reside in the above verse. The first part speaks of a ‘son’ in the singular and then immediately extrapolates that singularity into the assumptive of ‘any (other) god’, and then into ‘some of them would have overpowered others’. It seems to be a “verse of desperation” to try to prove some kind of absolute point. If the notion of the “sonship of God” is anathema to Muslims, then that is the Islamic world’s right to believe so, but why then try to over-prove the argument by taking the singular, “sonship”, to illogical and unworkable lengths? In all things, logic must surely be the fundamental cornerstone of The Creative Will of God, and no religion can alter that Divine reality. From Koranic verse 43:81:
‘Say: The Beneficent has no son; so I am the foremost of those who serve (God).a
In this verse, M.M. Ali expounds on the theme of negating the “Sonship of God”, seemingly at all costs, as his commentary reveals.
“Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth. Man did not weave the web of life; he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web he does to himself.
81a. In means if, but it is also used to indicate negation (“no son” here), carrying the same significance as ma. In this sense it is often followed by illa, as in 4:159, 58:2, and 67:20, but is sometimes used in that sense without being followed by illa, as in 10:68, 21:111 and 72:25. That it here means ma or not is corroborated by 19:88-93: “And they say The Beneficent has taken to Himself a son ... and it is not worthy of the Beneficent that He should take to Himself a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth that comes to the Beneficent as a servant”. See 19:92a, where it is shown that the word Rahman negatives the very idea on which the doctrine of sonship is based. Even if in is taken as meaning if, the words do not mean that, if God had a son, the Prophet would be the foremost of those who serve that son. The significance in this case would be that, when a man serves God, he may metaphorically be called a son of God, and therefore the Holy Prophet, being the foremost of those who serve, would be a son in that sense, but he refused to be called a son of God because the use of such metaphorical words had given rise to grievous errors.’
An interesting question arises with the above verse in the relationship between Muhammad and Jesus. Let’s clarify that sentence: By relationship, we do not mean what the Islamic world currently believes, or how the Christian world might view Muhammad. We mean in real terms, under Divinely-Ordained Decree. For as we have stated, there is an unimpeachable Source or Record of all that has occurred in the history of mankind that no human being and certainly no human religion can alter. In that Chronicle will be found the true and absolute “record” of the ‘relationship’ between Jesus and Muhammad.
However, that crucial information must wait for its appropriately-relevant Discourse. The content therein will also clarify many of the so-called “miracles” of Jesus, for one. Miracles, though real and possible, are still subject to the precise outworking of The Divine Laws of Creation. “I come not to overthrow the Law, but to fulfil it.” (Matthew 5:17.) So, whilst some reported “miracles” were not possible, others certainly occurred.
On the question of the Muslim obsession with the concept of “consort”, and for the purposes of replying and/or commenting on it, let’s once more ask the obvious question: “If Islam believes the “consort” and thus “sonship” issue to be irrelevant, why bother with so much verse and commentary. Of course, without Jesus as Islam’s “son of Mary”, the Scripture of John 16 centred on “The Spirit of Truth” is rendered irrelevant for any kind of perceived Islamic religious authority to so claim!
To conclude Muslim commentary on Mary, Jesus and “Sonship” in this Discourse, we reproduce from The Foundational Text the key points of what we consider to be the definitive series of Koranic verses that show how far removed “modern Korans” are from sheer logic and thus Truth on this critical issue. Precisely about the distortions centred on the birth of Jesus, we once more “illuminate” for you how medieval, how illogical, how absurd particular elements of Muhammad’s once clear teaching have now become.
From the Koranic Sura (chapter) on Mary, a Jennifer Williams’ quotes a number of verses pertaining to Mary and her “travail”. Earlier, we asked you to try and spot a very illogical and totally silly aspect of one verse --- remembering that the Koran is said to be verbatim in content from Gabriel to Muhammad. If you didn’t get it, you really should have, for the impossible nature of the whole event is very clear to see!
MUSLIMS LOVE JESUS, TOO: 6 THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW
ABOUT JESUS IN ISLAM
“Christmas, as everybody knows, commemorates the birth of Jesus and is a major religious celebration around the world.
But what many people don’t know is that Jesus is an important figure in Islam, too, even though most Muslims don’t celebrate Christmas (though some, especially some American Muslims, do).
In honour of the holiday, here are six things you may not know about the role of Jesus --- and his mother, Mary --- in Islam.
1) Jesus, Mary, and the angel Gabriel are all in the Quran (as are Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and a bunch of other Bible characters).
2) Muslims believe that Jesus (called “Isa” in Arabic) was a prophet of God, was born to a virgin (Mary), and will return to Earth before the Day of Judgement to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad Dajjal (“the false messiah”), also known as the Antichrist. All of which may sound pretty familiar to many Christians.
3) Mary (called “Maryam” in Arabic) has an entire chapter named for her --- the only chapter in the Quran named for a female figure. In fact, Mary is the only woman to be mentioned by name in the entire Quran. As noted in the Study Quran, “other female figures are identified only by their relation to others, such as the wife of Adam and mother of Moses, or by their Title, such as the Queen of Sheba.” Mary is mentioned more times in the Quran than in the entire New Testament.
4) Just as with all the other prophets, including Mohammed, Muslims recite, “Peace be upon him, every time they refer to Jesus.
5) Muslims believe that Jesus performed miracles: The Quran discusses several of Jesus’s miracles, including giving sight to the blind, healing lepers, raising the dead, and breathing life into clay birds.
6) The story of Jesus’s birth as told in the Quran is also the story of his first miracle, when he spoke as an infant in the cradle and declared himself to be a prophet of God. Here’s the story:
“And remember Mary in the Book, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. (1) And she veiled herself from them. Then We [God] sent unto her Our Spirit [the angel Gabriel], (1) and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said, “I seek refuge from thee in the Compassionate [i.e., God], if you are reverent!” He said, “I am but a messenger of thy Lord, to bestow upon thee a pure boy.”
She said, “How shall I have a boy when no man has touched me, nor have I been unchaste?” He said, “Thus shall it be. Thy Lord says, ‘It is easy for me’.” (2) And [it is thus] that We might make him a sign unto mankind, and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter decreed. (2)
So she conceived Him and withdrew to a place far off. (3) And the pangs of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date palm. She said, “Would that I had died before this and was a thing forgotten, utterly forgotten!” So he (4) called out to her from below her, (4) “Grieve not! Thy Lord has placed a rivulet beneath thee. And shake toward thyself the trunk of the date palm; (5) fresh, ripe dates shall fall upon thee. So eat and drink and cool thine eye. And if thou seest any human being, say, ‘Verily I have vowed a fast unto the Compassionate, so I shall not speak this day to any man.”
Then she came with him [the infant Jesus] unto her own people, carrying him. They said, “O Mary! Thou hast brought an amazing thing! O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not an evil man, nor was thy mother unchaste.” Then she pointed to him [Jesus]. They said, “How shall we speak to one who is yet a child in the cradle?” (6)
He [Jesus] said, “Truly I am a servant of God. He has given me the Book and made me a prophet. He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I live, and [has made me] dutiful toward my mother. And he has not made me domineering, wretched. Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I am raised alive!” (7)
That is Jesus son of Mary --- a statement of the truth, which they doubt.” (16:17 to 34)
So although Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the son of God --- an
important distinction between Muslim and Christian views of him ---
Muslims do revere Jesus as an important prophet.
Merry Christmas! ----------------------------------------------
Well, reader, as I stated earlier, this very foolish but nonetheless important narrative is cleverly-contrived, but totally unthinking in its supposed logic. We will tell you why as we dissect it all and, through just plain logic, show you how mindless it truly is, and precisely why it is so unthinking. The truly amazing thing about that series of Koranic verses is that 1.5 billion human beings actually “buy into it” and, moreover, without any degree of logical thought and intelligence whatsoever. For among that Muslim multitude who will not question the Koran or any part of it are any number of engineers, mathematicians, university Imams, doctors and lawyers etc.
Why, reader, do they not “publicly” question such obvious impossibilities as you have just read? For in truth, they are unworkable distortions that do not possess even a shred of just plain, intelligent logic. Yet that is a series of verses from just one chapter of the Koran. Despite the official line that Islam as a “religion of peace”; it seems that any clear-thinking Muslim who might want to challenge such illogical dogma from the “only perfect religion” for the only “true believers”, would surely put them at serious variance with most of the rest of global Islam.
Well, now read our commentary on good and accepting Muslim, Jennifer Williams’s, contribution to Islam’s “global crusade”, and then in pure honesty try and refute what we can clearly “see” as impossible nonsense. For what we will explain to you in very simple logic, you should recognise as a terrible affront against everything that pertains to GOD and HIS PERFECT WILL!
[We have checked the verses in the Koran of our preferred Muslim scholar, M.M. Ali, and also three other Korans to ensure that the verses read similarly; and they do. We will use some of Ali’s commentary to emphasise the crass nature of the whole narrative.]
Reader: Remember as you read the following counter-points of clarification, that the Koran is stated by Muslim Imams and 1.5 billion Muslim adherents --- and counting ---- to be delivered direct from God to the archangel, Gabriel; and thence to Muhammad. It is thus proclaimed by Islam to the one and only perfect and ordained Truth --- for all of humanity. I think that we would all agree that Truth, to be Truth, must hold Perfect Logic, don’t you think? Unfortunately, in this case read and weep!
Right, back to our key subject: The sequence of “Mary’s travail” as depicted in the Koran holds very obvious distortions of just everyday logic, never mind Truth itself. In simple clarification, we herewith present our “dissection” of the major, very illogical, points.
In the following Point 1 we are here told that Mary, born into the Jewish race and culture, would somehow separate herself from the women of her village and go off to a “far place” alone to conceive. Are we expected to really believe that? Fortunately for her in this disjointed Islamic narrative, she at least has the protection of the archangel Gabriel.
And in Point 2 the hoary old argument rears its stupid head here once more: A Perfect God Who brings forth a Perfect Creation through the outworking of Perfect Laws that are inviolable, immutable and thus unchangeable, suddenly --- for human religions, mind --- “permits” a “law change” for Jesus only! What that must obviously mean is that the human vessel into which He had to be incarnated in order to simply exist in the World of Matter was somehow conceived “outside” the Perfection of Immutable Creation-Law!
Sorry! It doesn’t work! For even the great Islamic scholar, M.M. Ali, in commentary 21b; clearly observes:
She conceived him in the ordinary way in which women conceive children’.
(Italics mine.)
And in his commentary on 19a:
‘The words I will give thee a pure boy are the words of the message. The Spirit, in
fact, only conveyed the Divine message, as it always does. Every word of the
Holy Qur’-an is the word of God, but every word was delivered to the Prophet
by the angel.’
(Bold and underlined emphasis mine.)
Reader: Seriously note what you have just read i.e., Every word of the Holy Qur’-an is the word of God. --- Supposedly from the Archangel Gabriel to Muhammad from the “Divine”; now apply that “claim” to our analysis of Williams’ “contribution” to the “Sonship” debate. What you will discover is that far too much of what the “poetic and perfect Koran” says flies in the face of just plain logic. Thus:
(2) Nonetheless, she “conceived him” and then supposedly withdrew
from her family and all the help that any culture would naturally offer a
pregnant woman of their village, to --- according to M.M. Ali’s translation
--- go off to “a remote place” to give birth alone. That doesn’t work, either.
(3) Now, in the throes of childbirth --- completely alone, remember ---
Mary is driven to the base of a date palm. She is thirsty and in need of
sustenance. What happens next is so bizarre and ludicrous as to be
laughable. ----- Let’s explain! Firstly, Mary is under the guardianship of the
archangel, Gabriel. He is not one of the many lesser serving angels of God,
but one of the seven highest Archangels. He is a Proclaimer of Divine
Messages, yet he somehow ends up “in the ground”! According to A.
Yusuf Ali’s interpretation, for the purpose of simply telling Mary that there
is a “rivulet flowing beneath her” --- which she would surely see in any
case ---- and from which she can assuage her thirst. Gabriel, The Lord’s
great Messenger, is reduced to being just “a voice from beneath the palm
tree”. So, this very special Messenger of God is relegated by Islam to
some kind of lesser creature that can somehow transition to a place
under a date palm, just to give advice to Mary. How crass is that? Is that
not truly more than just ridiculous, but quite insane? No “Message from
God”, even delivered by His Messenger, would ever be heard from
below the ground. The sheer effrontery of Islam is truly staggering!
(4/5) Then, to assuage her hunger, Gabriel advises Mary --- who is
sitting at the base of the palm tree and surely weakened through giving
birth --- to reach out and, at its base, mind; shake the “trunk of the palm
tree” so that ripe dates will fall from it. Think about that, reader! Who
would have the strength to shake the trunk of a fully-matured date palm
sufficiently-vigorously to loosen its fruit? Even the physically-strongest
male Jihadist in the whole of the Muslim world would not be able to. Icon
“Arnie” [Arnold Schwarzenegger] in his prime would be hard-pressed to do
so. The great Samson could have, but not a woman weak from childbirth.
Is it not the place of religions to deliver logic and intelligence in both their
writings and their oral interpretations? Silly in the extreme!
(6) Mary then journeys home with her new-born, shows him to her
people, who then ask a truly stupid question. Obviously knowing that
successive generations of “new-born” have never had the ability to speak,
the people who “welcome her home” nonetheless ask how to “speak to a
child in the cradle”.
(7) Of course, to maintain the lie of the Koran being this great wondrous
“book” full of God’s grace and exception for the “only true believers”,
Jesus must say “something”. So to fit the Muslim narrative, and against all
that is Perfect from God; as a “babe in the cradle”, Jesus speaks --- we
must presume in this truly foolish tale --- perfectly and eloquently.
Now, let’s hear more from M.M. Ali and his desperate attempts to try to logically explain the complete illogical reality of the very “perfect beyond all measure” Koranic verses that we are currently dissecting.
Williams’ Point 2: Ali on Verse 21a. ‘Jesus was a sign to men, in the sense that he was made a prophet, and every prophet is a sign, because the Divine revelation which is granted to him affords a clear proof of the existence of the Divine Being. Or, he was a sign to the Israelites in particular, because with him Prophethood came to an end among the Israelites.’
Ali once more denigrates the whole notion of Jesus as The Son of God and consigns Him to just mere “Prophethood”. Moreover, by so doing, Ali elevates the “calling” of Muhammad and Islam to a level exceeding that of Jesus. Foolish, indeed!
Points 3 & 4. 23a. ‘This shows that Mary gave birth to Jesus while on a journey; hence the reference to water and food in vv. 24 and 25, such as one can only find on a journey. That she was going to a distant place is shown by v. 22. She may have had recourse to the trunk of a palm-tree to find a support in the throes of childbirth.’
Ali now actually questions his own belief that every verse of the Koran is the very word of God. For if we compare Ali’s own translation vis-à-vis the actual verse 19:23; “And the throes of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree”, and his commentary; “She may have had recourse to the trunk of a palm-tree...”, a serious and very obvious “disconnect” is immediately evident.
Islam, you cannot have it both ways, for on that huge and fundamental difference pertaining to just one verse of the whole Koran between what is supposed to be the “Word of God” and a subsequent interpretation of that “claimed Word” by an acclaimed Muslim scholar, we could rest our whole case. Despite that reality, many more Koranic verses than we are dissecting and “putting right” here also await our attention. In the meantime, we will quote two more verse-commentaries from M.M. Ali, and then leave this behind us until we must address it again in the main Work.
Points 2 & 3. 23b. ‘Mary gave birth to Jesus under ordinary circumstances which women experience in giving birth to children. The throes of childbirth were too severe for her to bear, and hence she gave utterance to such words (“Oh, would that I had died before this, and had been a thing quite forgotten”). The reference to the throes of childbirth clearly shows that an ordinary human child was coming into the world. Or, there may be a reference to Gen. 3:16, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children.
The same serious “disconnect” is evident here too. Quite literally “ignoring” the actual “words” of the verse, M.M. Ali opines that it may be this, or it may mean something else. Either Gabriel related everything “word by word” and “verse by verse” to Muhammad, which was then immediately written down verbatim, remember, or he did not! Instead ---- as the many Islamic commentators state --- the Koran in its present state was “cobbled together” from many different sources after Muhammad’s death.
[Reader: In the main Work, we will quote from the actual All-Truth of the real Spirit of Truth and reveal to you what really happened towards the end of Muhammad’s life.]
Point 6. 27 a The conversation that is related to have taken place in the verses that follow is alone sufficient to make it clear that the coming of Mary to her people with her son, as stated in this verse, relates to a time when Jesus had grown sufficiently old to have been raised to the dignity of a prophet, and to have received Divine revelation, as he speaks of having been given the book in v. 30. The commentators, merely because the verse follows one in which the birth of Jesus is spoken of, understand the incident to relate to a time when Jesus was still a baby. But it should be noted that the Holy Qur’-an does not relate stories in all their details, and often omits a number of incidents which are not needed for its purpose. --------- Moreover, it is unreasonable to suppose that, as soon as Mary gave birth to the child, she took it to her people to make a show of it. The Qur’-an v. 22, states that she was then going to some remote place, and thus the incident related here could not have taken place immediately after the delivery. .....’
What are we to make of M.M. Ali’s commentary on other commentators here? Either Jesus arrived with Mary to her people as a baby --- as the Koran actually says ---- or the commentators have supplanted what we have been unequivocally told is the very “Word of God” with a different narrative; one that attempts to make more sense of Koranic verses that, on their own or even in a given sequence such as in this case, actually make very little sense at all. So; either a baby, or a grown man! It cannot be both! In this example, it is not simply a case of one or the other being correct; for both narratives are completely unworkable, and therefore wrong!
Reader, you can surely read that for yourself. So, if you can, there must be at least some Muslims of logical intelligence who do not live in fear of their religion, who can also “see” the obvious disconnects. We surely wish that it were so for the greater majority of Muslims, but it is not and, in truth, will sadly probably never ever be. We will conclude this line of “dissection” with two more of M.M. Ali’s commentaries, vis-à-vis 30a and 31a.
Point 7. 30 a
‘It is clear that this conversation did not take place when Jesus
was an infant in the cradle, but when he had actually been made a prophet.’
Point 7. 31 a
‘It is absurd to suppose that prayers and alms were enjoined on
Jesus while he was only a day old and that he really observed these injunctions at
that age. In fact, Jesus’ answer clearly shows that he was addressing his people
after he had been entrusted with the mission of prophethood.’
A truly strange and very dangerous “Islamic paradox”: Despite what M.M. Ali constantly defends in “his Koran” as it being the very “Word of God” in every “word”; by correctly identifying that certain verses cannot be so in their literalism, he has thus “opposed” the very “authoritative position” of the much- vaunted “verbatim aspect” of the Koran as being “Perfect from God”. I don’t think we need to point out what in 30a and 31a the clear discrepancies and disconnects are. For if we must do that for global Islam as well, then it is no wonder that none of this has ever been questioned and “put right”!
American Muslim Jennifer Williams concludes her little contribution to the great errors propagated by Muslims globally with the pithy Koranic verse: (19:34).
“That is Jesus son of Mary --- a statement of the truth, which they doubt.”
No: Doubt is not the word! That kind of puerile “stuff” goes far beyond that into an outright rejection, never to be even considered in any shape or form as being even remotely connected to Divine Truth! Islam has conveniently forgotten the serious warning-admonition of Jesus to the Jewish Religious Authority and the people during His tragically-short but earth-shattering Ministry: ---
“I come not to overthrow the Law, but to fulfil it!”
Reader: As we advised earlier, take very careful note of M.M. Ali’s Islamic “mantra:
----- ‘Every word of the Holy Qur’-an is the word of God’ -----
And apply it to every Islamic interpretation that you read. For now, though, Islam has spoken its case.